{"id":279,"date":"2022-03-25T21:56:32","date_gmt":"2022-03-25T21:56:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zindi24.com\/?p=279"},"modified":"2022-07-09T00:10:06","modified_gmt":"2022-07-09T00:10:06","slug":"john-holloway-vegerandina-rumete-bi-reya-hevnasine-bingeha-pirsgireka-kurd-e","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nlka.net\/ku\/john-holloway-vegerandina-rumete-bi-reya-hevnasine-bingeha-pirsgireka-kurd-e\/","title":{"rendered":"John Holloway: Vegerandina r\u00fbmet\u00ea bi r\u00eaya hevnas\u00een\u00ea bingeha pirsgir\u00eaka Kurd e"},"content":{"rendered":"

C\u00ceHAD HEM\u00ca<\/strong><\/p>\n

John Holloway mamostey\u00ea zanist\u00ean civak\u00ee y\u00ea Zan\u00eengeha Jubilee ya serbixwe ya Meks\u00eekay\u00ea ye. Ew ji niv\u00eeskar\u00ean rojavay\u00ee y\u00ean her\u00ee z\u00eade ku li ser r\u00eabaz\u00ean n\u00fb y\u00ean t\u00eako\u015f\u00een\u00ea y\u00ean li dij\u00ee desthilata sermayeya c\u00eehan\u00ea niv\u00eesandiye \u00fb heta niha diniv\u00ees\u00eene j\u00ee. Pirt\u00fbka Holloway ya bi nav\u00ea \u2018Guherandina C\u00eehan\u00ea B\u00eay\u00ee Bidestxistina Desthilat\u00ea\u2019 ku li 11 zimanan hatiye wergerandin \u00fb pirt\u00fbka w\u00ee \u2018Crack Capitalism\u2019 li c\u00eehan\u00ea deng veda.<\/p>\n

Pirsa sereke ya ku Holloway di piraniya berhem\u00ean xwe de li ser disekine, wiha ye; div\u00ea \u00e7awa “em” di raman \u00fb prat\u00eek\u00ea de, ji tora t\u00eageh\u00ean s\u00eestema c\u00eehan\u00ee ya ku di nav aloziy\u00ean binyatger de, wek\u00ee Covid-19, gef\u00ean w\u00earanker \u00ean avheway\u00ea, reng\u00ean hegemonyaya serdest, hiyerar\u015f\u00ee \u00fb otor\u00eeter\u00eezm\u00ea xelas bikin?<\/p>\n

Gelo derfet heye ku em c\u00eehaneke cuda b\u00eay\u00ee ku em bikevin nava tora s\u00eestema hey\u00ee, ava bikin? Her wiha gelo peyam\u00ean tevger\u00ean siyas\u00ee y\u00ean ku xwe li dij\u00ee nim\u00fbney\u00ean klas\u00eek n\u00ee\u015fan didin, wek tevgera kurd\u00ee li Rojava-Bakur-Rojhilat\u00ea S\u00fbriy\u00ea, tevgera Zapat\u00eesta \u00fb tevger\u00ean din \u00ean civak\u00ee \u00e7i ne? Ev pirs \u00fb gelek pirs\u00ean din em \u00ea bi r\u00eaya Navenda Kurd\u00ee ya L\u00eakol\u00eenan, ji zanyar\u00ea civak\u00ee John Holloway pirs bikin. Her wiha me d\u00eet ku em hevd\u00eetin\u00ea bikin 2 be\u015f, ji ber mijar\u00ean ku t\u00ea de werin n\u00eeqa\u015fkirin, dewlemend in.<\/p>\n

Be\u015fa yekem\u00een a hevd\u00eetin\u00ea wiha ye:<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Pandemiya Covid-19 ku aloziyeke her\u00ee sereke ya dema niha ye, em \u00ea ji w\u00ea dest p\u00ea bikin. Wek\u00ee h\u00fbn dizanin ku pandemiya Covid-19 bi ser\u00ea c\u00eehan\u00ea de hatiye, di encam\u00ea de n\u00eejadperest\u00ee, tund\u00ee, keysbaz\u00ee \u00fb zilm bi away\u00ean cuda z\u00eade b\u00fb. Her wiha di belavkirina vaks\u00een\u00ean Koronay\u00ea de, n\u00eejadperest\u00ee (Dewlet\u00ean dewlemend ten\u00ea dikarib\u00fbn ku vaks\u00een\u00ean Koronay\u00ea bi dest bixin) bi awayek\u00ee mezin li dij\u00ee\u00a0 bindestan \u00fb kes\u00ean hatine pa\u015fguhkirin \u00e7\u00eab\u00fbne; kesayet\u00ean cur bi cur, jin, kedkar, penaber \u00fb her\u00eam\u00ean hejar. Gelo em \u00ea bi r\u00eaya tecrubeya Covid-19 \u00e7i ji s\u00eestema kap\u00eetal\u00eezm f\u00ear bibin? Her wiha texm\u00een\u00ean w\u00ea der bar\u00ea v\u00ea yek\u00ea de \u00e7i ne?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: Ji bo min ev pirseke pir zehmet e. Ez dib\u00eenim ku ev aloziya kap\u00eetal\u00eezm\u00ea ji du aliyan de ye; a yek\u00ea, bi baweriya min pandemiya Covid-19 bi rast\u00ee gelek xeternak e \u00fb encama w\u00earaniya hevsengiya di navbera mirovan \u00fb reng\u00ean jiyan\u00ea y\u00ean din de ye. Ev w\u00earan\u00ee j\u00ee, encama hewldana sermaye ya bi destxistina qezenc\u00ea ye. Pandemiya rastiya w\u00earaniya civaka ku em t\u00eade dij\u00een dike. A duyem\u00een, div\u00ea em bib\u00eenin ku ev pandemiya di aliy\u00ea bandora xwe de, aloziya kap\u00eetal\u00eezm\u00ea ye, nexasim bandora w\u00ea ya abor\u00ee. Beriya aloziy\u00ea, piraniya abor\u00eenasan digot “Aloziyek d\u00ea were, l\u00ea em nizanin w\u00ea keng\u00ee were, l\u00ea w\u00ea aloziyeke pir mezin be”. Pandemiya b\u00fb sedem ku aloz\u00ee z\u00fb \u00e7\u00eabibe. Aloziya v\u00eerusa Koronay\u00ea be\u015feke mezin ji d\u00eenam\u00eezma kap\u00eetal\u00eezm\u00ea ye. Ti\u015ft\u00ea diyar niha ew e ku tedb\u00eer\u00ean siyas\u00ee y\u00ean ku dewlet\u00ean cuda girtine, dixwazin s\u00eenorek\u00ee ji v\u00ea pandemiy\u00ea dey\u00eenin ji aliyek\u00ee ve \u00fb ji aliyek\u00ee din ve j\u00ee ji v\u00ea pandemiy\u00ea s\u00fbd werbigrin da ku serweriya dewlet\u00ea li ser civak\u00ea z\u00eadetir bikin. Bawer dikim ku ev yek di hem\u00fb cihan de, bi r\u00eaya p\u00ea\u015fketina \u00e7avd\u00eariy\u00ea t\u00ea kirin.<\/p>\n

Di dema niha de, p\u00eakan\u00eena tedb\u00eer\u00ean ku dewlet\u00ea ferz kiriye, b\u00fbye diyalekt\u00eeke balk\u00ea\u015f. L\u00ea beriya her ti\u015ft\u00ee, ez dib\u00eenim ku qeb\u00fblkirina tedb\u00eer\u00ean ewlehiy\u00ea, vaks\u00een\u00ea \u00fb li xwe kirina maskan, rengek ji reng\u00ea hevgirtina civak\u00ee ye. Em v\u00ea yek\u00ea ne ten\u00ea ji bo parastina xwe dikin, l\u00ea bel\u00ea ji bo parastina derdora xwe dikin. Ji bo min ev mijareke pir giring e. Ti\u015fta ku em dikarin texm\u00een bikin ku\u00a0 ev aloz\u00ee w\u00ea me bixe rew\u015fek\u00ea ku zehmet be em p\u00ea\u015fb\u00eeniy\u00ean w\u00ea zanibin. Di du sal\u00ean bor\u00ee de, gelek kes b\u00eah\u00eav\u00ee ji ber hejar\u00ee, windakirina dahata, xizim \u00fb hevalan, hwd, bi wan re \u00e7\u00eab\u00fbne. Bi texm\u00eena min ku di encama v\u00ea yek\u00ea de, w\u00ea teq\u00een\u00ean mezin di nava civak\u00ea de \u00e7\u00eabin, b\u00ea guman ev yek rew\u015fa niha ya t\u00ea de rave dike, nexasim li Ewropay\u00ea. L\u00ea zehmet e mirov gir\u00eeng\u00ee \u00fb bandora van teq\u00eenan p\u00ea\u015fb\u00een\u00ee bike.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Bi r\u00eaya v\u00ea bersiv\u00ea, te v\u00eerusa Koronay\u00ea bi aloziya ekolojiy\u00ea ve gir\u00ea da. L\u00ea gelek rew\u015fenb\u00eer \u00fb siyasetmedar hene dixwazin van dozan bi r\u00eaya dewlet\u00ea \u00e7areser bikin. Te bi xwe di gotareke xwe de ku di kovara ROAK de hatib\u00fb we\u015fandin, ev n\u00eazikat\u00ee rexne kirib\u00fb. Gelo em \u00ea \u00e7awa bikarin li p\u00ea\u015fber\u00ee aloziya ekoloj\u00eek bisekinin b\u00eay\u00ee ku em pi\u015fta xwe bidin saziy\u00ean dewlet\u00ea?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: Ev pirs cewher\u00ee ye \u00fb mezin e j\u00ee. Me encam\u00ean L\u00fbtkeya Avhewa Glasgow (COP-26) d\u00eetin. Ne bawer im ku aloziya avheway\u00ea di hundir\u00ea s\u00eestema kap\u00eetal\u00eezm\u00ea ya niha de, were \u00e7areserkirin. Eger em bi Marks \u00fb n\u00eeqa\u015f\u00ean w\u00ee y\u00ean qan\u00fbn\u00ean karhgehan \u00fb sermayey\u00ea bifikirin, diyar dibe ku sermaye ji aliy\u00ea t\u00eakbirina karker\u00ean ku pi\u015fta xwe did\u00ea, bi s\u00eenor\u00ea xwe re nakok e. L\u00ea di \u00e7areserkirina v\u00ea yek\u00ea de bi ser dikeve. Tev\u00ee ku ne\u00e7ar e, roj\u00ean karkirin\u00ea k\u00eam bike. Di baweriya min de, em di rew\u015fek\u00ea de ne ku p\u00ea\u015feroja kap\u00eetal\u00eezm\u00ea \u00fb mirovahiy\u00ea ji ber aloziya\u00a0 ekolojiy\u00ea, bi gef\u00ean w\u00earaniy\u00ea re r\u00fb bi r\u00fb ye. Gelo em dikarin v\u00ea pirsgir\u00eak\u00ea di hundir\u00ea kap\u00eetal\u00eezm\u00ea de \u00e7areser bikin? Wek\u00ee kesayet, ne bawer im. Di civak\u00ea de ku armanca sereke qezenckirin be, ne p\u00eakan e ku aloziya avheway\u00ea \u00e7areser bike, madem ku em bawer in pere d\u00eenam\u00eezma qezenckirin\u00ea ye. Bi gotineke din, di hin rew\u015fan de em pirsa \u00e7awaniya xelasb\u00fbna ji sermaye \u00fb pere, bi awayek\u00ee lezg\u00een re r\u00fb bi r\u00fb ne.<\/p>\n

Di v\u00ea rew\u015f\u00ea de, texm\u00een dikim ku bersiva em ji tevgera kurd\u00ee, Zapat\u00eesta li Meks\u00eeka \u00fb gelek tevger\u00ean din digirin, ew e ku em bi xwe li hember\u00ee v\u00ea rew\u015f\u00ea bisekinin b\u00eay\u00ee ku em pi\u015fta xwe bidin dewlet\u00ea. Bi rast\u00ee j\u00ee, div\u00ea em xwe, kirin\u00ean xwe \u00fb r\u00eabaz\u00ean xwe y\u00ean taybet di p\u00ea\u015fketina t\u00eakiliy\u00ean cuda bi xweza \u00fb reng\u00ean din \u00ean jiyan\u00ea de, bi p\u00ea\u015f bixin. B\u00ea guman ev n\u00eazikat\u00ee cewher\u00ea ramana ekososyal\u00eezm \u00fb ekofem\u00een\u00eezm\u00ea ye. Div\u00ea ev xebata me be\u015feke sereke di t\u00eako\u015f\u00eena guhartina c\u00eehan\u00ea de be. Mijar ne ten\u00ea xelasb\u00fbna ji sermay\u00ea ye, l\u00ea bel\u00ea gir\u00eaday\u00ee veguhartina t\u00eakiliy\u00ean me bi jiyan\u00ea ji reng\u00ean din re ye.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Te di pirt\u00fbka xwe ya bi nave \u2018Guhartina C\u00eehan\u00ea B\u00eay\u00ee Bidestxistina Desthilat\u00ea\u2019 de, gelek t\u00eageh ji n\u00fb ve p\u00eanase kirin; wek\u00ee “kar” li hember\u00ee “xebat\u00ea”, “h\u00eaz” li hember\u00ee “serweriy\u00ea”, “nas\u00eena ji bo” li hember\u00ee “nas\u00eena li ser”, her wiha t\u00eageha \u015fore\u015f\u00ea. Te di pirt\u00fbka xwe ya bi nave “Crack Capitalism”ev mijar p\u00ea\u015f xist. Dixwazim bizanim ku bandor\u00ean siyas\u00ee \u00fb felsef\u00eek \u00ean ku hi\u015ftin h\u00fbn ji n\u00fb ve bi \u015fore\u015f\u00ea bifikirin, wek\u00ee r\u00eabazek\u00ea p\u00ea rabin b\u00eay\u00ee ku desthilatdariya dewlet\u00ea were bidestxistin an j\u00ee di hilbijartinan de bi ser bikevin? Her wiha gir\u00eengiya v\u00ea yek\u00ea di kar\u00eegeriya \u015fore\u015fger\u00ee de \u00e7i ye?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: Beriya ez ji b\u00eer bikim, dixwazim ti\u015ftek\u00ee b\u00eajim, beriya ku bersiva pirsa te bidim. W\u00ea pirt\u00fbka min Guhartina C\u00eehan\u00ea B\u00eay\u00ee Bidestxistina Desthilat\u00ea bi ziman\u00ea ereb\u00ee di nava v\u00ea meh\u00ea de derkeve. Ev ji bo min gelek\u00ee bi nirx e.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Ev n\u00fb\u00e7ey\u00ean pir xwe\u015f in. Bawer dikim ku d\u00ea ji aliy\u00ea gelek kesan ve were p\u00ea\u015fwaz\u00eekirin, nexasim xwendevan\u00ean li Rojava \u00fb Bakur \u00fb Rojhilat\u00ea S\u00fbriy\u00ea. Ti\u015ft\u00ea dizanim berhem\u00ean w\u00ea h\u00eena bi ziman\u00ea ereb\u00ee nehatine \u00e7apkirin.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: Em vegerin ser pirsa te. Ez heta sala 1991\u2019an li Br\u00eetanya \u00fb Skotland\u00ea mam. Diyalekt\u00eekeke me ya mezin der bar\u00ea dewlet\u00ea de heb\u00fb. \u00c7avkaniya v\u00ea diyalekt\u00eek\u00ea vedigere “Guft\u00fbgoy\u00ean dari\u015ftina dewlet\u00ea” ku w\u00ea dem\u00ea ji Almanyay\u00ea derketib\u00fbn. R\u00eabaza ku me f\u00eam kiriye, dewlet rengek ji reng\u00ea sermay\u00ea ye. Ev ji bo me t\u00ea wateya ku em nikarin dewlet\u00ea ji bo t\u00eakbirina kap\u00eetal\u00eezm\u00ea bi kar b\u00eenin. Pi\u015ftre di sala 1991\u2019an de ez \u00e7\u00fbm Meks\u00eekoy\u00ea. Dema ku serhildana Zapat\u00eestay\u00ea dest p\u00ea kir, ez li wir b\u00fbm. Ji destp\u00eak\u00ea de gotin “Em naxwazin dest deynin ser desthilatdar\u00ee \u00fb dewlet\u00ea”. Mijar ne bidestxistina desthilatdar\u00ee ye, l\u00ea bel\u00ea ji n\u00fb ve avakirina c\u00eehaneke n\u00fb ye. Diyar e ku ev n\u00eazikat\u00ee wek\u00ee diyalekt\u00eek\u00ean teor\u00eek \u00ean ku me li Br\u00eetanyay\u00ea n\u00eeqa\u015f dikirin.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Gelo “Marks\u00eezma Vekir\u00ee” (Open Marxism) rolek di v\u00ea yek\u00ea de l\u00eest?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: Bawer im er\u00ea. Ji bo me “marks\u00eezma vekir\u00ee” di rastiya xwe de hewldana vekirin \u00fb rizgarkirina kategoriy\u00ean marks\u00eezm\u00ea ye. Her wiha f\u00eamkirina van kategoriyan wek\u00ee t\u00eagih\u00ee\u015ftin\u00ean t\u00eako\u015f\u00een\u00ea ye. Bi rast\u00ee mijar ne ten\u00ea kel \u00fb pel e \u00fb ne wek\u00ee rengek ji reng\u00ean hegemonyay\u00ea ye, l\u00ea bel\u00ea wek\u00ee r\u00eabazek\u00ee ji r\u00eabaz\u00ean t\u00eako\u015f\u00een\u00ea ye. Ev yek ji bo pere j\u00ee derbasdar e. Ger tu texm\u00een dik\u00ee pere dih\u00eale r\u00eabaz \u00fb kiryar\u00ean me ber bi r\u00eabazeke diyarker ve bibe, madem pere li ser jiyana me ya rojane hate ferzkirin, bi hezaran kes her roj t\u00eane ku\u015ftin \u00fb sedema ku\u015ftina wan j\u00ee tund\u00ee yan j\u00ee bir\u00e7\u00eeb\u00fbn an j\u00ee xwe\u015fku\u015ftin e. Lewra marks\u00eezma vekir\u00ee hewl dide em van kategoriyan bi \u00e7av\u00ea t\u00eako\u015f\u00een\u00ea bib\u00eenin. Her wiha wek\u00ee w\u00ea j\u00ee, em bi dewlet\u00ea difikirin ku wek\u00ee ti\u015ftek\u00ee ji jor de li ser kiryar\u00ean me t\u00ea ferzkirin.<\/p>\n

Hizirandina bi dewlet\u00ea, t\u00ea wateya ku em di t\u00eako\u015f\u00eena li dij\u00ee dewlet\u00ea de dihizirin anku tevger di aliy\u00ea berovaj\u00ee de ye. An j\u00ee b\u00eajim ku hizirandina bi dewlet\u00ea, t\u00ea wateya hizirandina di aliy\u00ea berovaj\u00ee de, wek\u00ee komb\u00fbn, meclis\u00ean hevkar \u00fb kom\u00ean ku di tevger\u00ean berovaj\u00ee de tev digerin. Lewra, dewlet rengek\u00ee diyarker \u00ea bir\u00eaxistinkirina civak\u00ea ye ku her tim desthilatdar\u00ee ji jor de t\u00ea \u00fb her tim em bi r\u00eaxistineke berovaj\u00ee w\u00ea re r\u00fb bi r\u00fb dim\u00eenin. Hin caran pirsek der bar\u00ea Zapat\u00eesta ku r\u00eabaz\u00ean wan \u00ean taybet \u00ean bir\u00eaxistinb\u00fbn\u00ea hene, derdikeve. L\u00ea taybetmendiya w\u00ea tevger\u00ea (Zapat\u00eesta) r\u00eaxistineke hevkar e. Ev taybetmend\u00ee j\u00ee li gel tevgera kurd\u00ee, kom\u00een e ku h\u00eazeke navend\u00ee ya r\u00eaxistina siyas\u00ee ye. Ji bo min hizirandina bi “marks\u00eezma vekir\u00ee” t\u00ea wateya hizirandina bi dewlet\u00ea ku ne ti\u015ftek\u00ee ji dervey\u00ee me ye, l\u00ea bel\u00ea wek\u00ee nakokiyeke ku ji jor ve t\u00ea da ku r\u00eabaz\u00ean diyarker \u00fb r\u00eaxistin\u00ee li ser me ferz bikin. Lewma r\u00eaxistina kollekt\u00eef “komun” tevgereke berovaj\u00ee ye. Tevgereke berxwedan\u00ea \u00fb serhildan\u00ea ya li dij\u00ee dewlet\u00ea ye.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Bi gotineke din, armanc ji \u2018marks\u00eezma vekir\u00ee\u2019 gurkirina nakokiyan di nava kategor\u00ee \u00fb \u00e7\u00eenan de ye?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: Rast e. L\u00ea ba\u015ftir e em behsa nelihev\u00ee an j\u00ee dijberiy\u00ea bikin (antagonism), ji ber ku nakok\u00ee dibe ku di \u00e7ar\u00e7oveya ne civak\u00ee were f\u00eamkirin. Ji ber v\u00ea yek\u00ea j\u00ee, ev \u00e7\u00een nelihev \u00fb dijber in.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Gelo t\u00ear\u00ea dike ku desthilatdariya dewlet\u00ea were derbaskirin? Gelo dibe ku hegomon\u00ee \u00fb p\u00eeram\u00eed\u00ee di civak\u00ea de, b\u00ea dewlet\u00ea \u00e7\u00eabibe? Nexasim Bookchin, Ocalan \u00fb David Graeber dib\u00eajin, di civaka b\u00ea dewlet de dibe ku p\u00eeram\u00eed\u00ee \u00fb hegomin\u00ee heb\u00ea. Gelo dibe ku civaka b\u00ea dewlet, misogeriya azadiya me be?<\/p>\n

Holloway: (Dikene) Misoger\u00ee ji tu ti\u015ft\u00ee re tune ye, pirsgir\u00eak ev bi xwe ye. Ti\u015ft\u00ea em dizanin ku dewlet rengek\u00ee ji reng\u00ean r\u00eaxistinkir\u00ee y\u00ean zordar e. Her wiha em dizanin ku dewlet heb\u00fbna xwe, disp\u00ear\u00ea ji n\u00fb ve hilberandina sermayey\u00ea. Nexwe dewlet ji kur perey\u00ean xwe qezenc dike? Eger hejmarek rayedar\u00ean te di dewlet\u00ea de hebin ku ti\u015ftek\u00ee nahilber\u00eenin, lewra ji bo ku bij\u00een div\u00ea dahateyek heb\u00ea ku xez\u00eeneya dewlet\u00ea t\u00ear bike. Ev yek j\u00ee ji bil\u00ee berhevkirina sermay\u00ea nikare p\u00eak b\u00een\u00ea. Lewma div\u00ea dewlet propogandeya berhevkirina sermay\u00ea bike.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Madem em behsa dewlet\u00ea dikin, David Graeber carek\u00ea li ser pirt\u00fbka te \u2018Guhartina C\u00eehan\u00ea B\u00eay\u00ee Bidestxistina Desthilat\u00ea” got, ji aliy\u00ea piraniya anar\u015f\u00eestan ve t\u00ea xwendin, tev\u00ee ku h\u00fbn xwe wek\u00ee marks\u00ee didin n\u00ee\u015fandan, n\u00ear\u00eena te li ser v\u00ea yek\u00ea \u00e7i ye? Ez wek kesayet j\u00ee ku bi komun\u00eezm\u00ea bawer im, b\u00eahtir berhem\u00ean te ji y\u00ean ku marksiy\u00ean din b\u00eahtir bala min diki\u015f\u00eene.<\/p>\n

Holloway: (Dikene) Na, ez xwe di \u00e7ar\u00e7oveyek\u00ee de diyar nakim. L\u00ea b\u00ea guman ez j\u00ee ji w\u00ea pa\u015fperdey\u00ea me. Bawer im marks\u00eezm gelek\u00ee giring e; a yek\u00ea ji ber dib\u00eaje, sermaye pi\u015fta xwe dide me. Em texm\u00een dikin ku em ten\u00ea qurban\u00ee \u00fb per\u00ee\u015fan in, l\u00ea di rastiy\u00ea sermaye pi\u015fta xwe dide me. A duyem\u00een, bawer dikim ku ev mijara teoriya nirx\u00ea kar li gel Marks e ku dib\u00eaje: Nirx ji berhema me ye \u00fb bi v\u00ea yek\u00ea sermaye pi\u015fta xwe dide me. Bi v\u00ee reng\u00ee feresat vekir\u00ee dim\u00eene, ne girt\u00ee. Lewra ev j\u00ee r\u00eabaz\u00ea f\u00eamkirina p\u00ea\u015fketina kap\u00eetalizm\u00ea ye ku t\u00eako\u015f\u00eena sermaye ya domdar ku \u00ead\u00ee pi\u015fta xwe nede me. Dibe ku tu texm\u00een bik\u00ee em bin dikevin an j\u00ee di 30-40 sal\u00ean daw\u00ee de, bi bindikevin, l\u00ea sermaye j\u00ee bibin dikeve \u00fb heb\u00fbna xwe ji ber\u00ea z\u00eadetir ber bi t\u00eak\u00e7\u00fbn\u00ea ve ye. Aloziya daray\u00ee ya sala 2008`an \u00fb aloziya v\u00eer\u00fbsa Koronay\u00ea ya niha, n\u00ee\u015faney\u00ea v\u00ea t\u00eak\u00e7\u00fbn\u00ea ne.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Madem te t\u00eak\u00e7\u00fbn bi b\u00eer xist, gelo ev yek bandorb\u00fbna te ji Theodor Adorno vedigere, ku am\u00fbr\u00ean anal\u00eet\u00eek ji bo t\u00eageh\u00ea redkirin\u00ea \u00fb derbaskirina s\u00eestem\u00ea dane me? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: Rast e, bandoreke e\u015fkere ya Theodor Adorno \u00fb Ernst Bloch “f\u00eelozof\u00ea h\u00eaviy\u00ea” li ser r\u00eaw\u00eetiya min heye. Ji ber ku texm\u00een dikim ku (bi d\u00eetina Adorno) di nava civak\u00ea de h\u00eazeke b\u00ea nasname heye, ku nasname bi temam\u00ee nikare bigire nava xwe. Bi gotineke din, em hem\u00fb kategoriy\u00ean hizir\u00ee \u00fb qalib\u00ean r\u00eaxistinb\u00fbna civak\u00ee, derbas dikin. Ti\u015ft\u00ea ku Zap\u00eesta dib\u00eaje \u00fb ez j\u00ee dib\u00eenim gelek\u00ee xwe\u015f e ew e ku “Dema em di\u00e7im Spanyay\u00ea, ti\u015ft\u00ea yekem\u00een ku em ji wan re b\u00eajin: We em kole nekirin, ji ber ku me li ber xwe da \u00fb ser\u00ee hilda, l\u00ea bel\u00ea her tim ji ber ku me liber xwe da \u00fb ser\u00ee hild”. Ji bo min ev cehwer\u00ea fikir\u00ea Adorno ji bo b\u00ea nasnameb\u00fbn\u00ea ye. Tev\u00ee v\u00ea yek\u00ea j\u00ee ne bawer im ku Adorno di aliy\u00ea siyaset\u00ea de, bi van t\u00eagehan dihizir\u00ee. Em dikarin ji pere b\u00eajin”Tu texm\u00een dikin ku te em kole kirine \u00fb em ketine bin r\u00eagez\u00ean pere de, l\u00ea na, te me kole nekirine, ji ber ku me her tim li berxwe da \u00fb ser\u00ee hilda”.\u00a0 Wek\u00ee ku tevgera kurd\u00ee, tevgera Zap\u00eesta \u00fb gelek\u00ea r\u00eabaz\u00ean din \u00ean di jiyana rojane de dib\u00eajin “Em li gor\u00ee mentiq\u00ea pere naj\u00een, em \u00ea hewl bidin ku li gor\u00ee nirx\u00ean dervey\u00ee nirx\u00ea pere bij\u00een.”<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Di pirt\u00fbka te \u2018Crack Capitalism\u2019 de, we bi b\u00eer xist ku kada razber (Abstract labour), bi hegomaniya baviksalar\u00ee de gir\u00ea da. Gelo ev t\u00ea wateya ku berxwedana li dij\u00ee sermaye bi \u015fert\u00ea ku jin j\u00ee di cih\u00ea xwe di v\u00ea t\u00eako\u015f\u00een\u00ea de bigire, da ku jin rolek\u00ea di serhildan \u00fb berxwedan\u00ea de bil\u00eeze?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: Bel\u00ea rast e. Kap\u00eetal\u00eezm her tim me dabe\u015f\u00ee \u00e7\u00een \u00fb kategoriy\u00ean cuda dike, her wiha me ber bi kategoriy\u00ean zayend\u00ee ve dibe. Kap\u00eetal\u00eezm ji me re dib\u00eaje”Ji ber taybetmendiy\u00ean te y\u00ean beden\u00ee, div\u00ea tu bi r\u00eabaz\u00ean diyarker tevbiger\u00ee”. Wek\u00ee ez f\u00eam dikim, t\u00eako\u015f\u00eena li dij\u00ee kap\u00eetal\u00eezm\u00ea wek\u00ee ser\u00ee hildana li dij\u00ee kategoriyan e, lewra ser\u00ee hildana li dij\u00ee karegoriy\u00ean zayend\u00ee ye. Ev j\u00ee t\u00ea wateya ku xwe ser\u00ee hildana jinan li senifandina zayenda xwe \u00fb ev j\u00ee ji bo min pir giring e.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Murray Bookchin her tim israr dikin ku \u00e7ep\u00ea p\u00ea\u015fver\u00fb y\u00ea rad\u00eekal tel\u00eemat\u00ean xwe ji “prens\u00eeba h\u00eaviy\u00ea” ya Renst Bloch bigirin, an j\u00ee w\u00ea bikevin xefka nihilism \u00fb b\u00eah\u00eav\u00ee. H\u00fbn j\u00ee bi Bloch bandor b\u00fbne. Gelo w\u00ea \u00e7awa pirt\u00fbk\u00ean Bloch ji bo tevger\u00ean \u00e7apgir di van dem\u00ean dijwar de, bibe r\u00ean\u00ee\u015fan?<\/p>\n

Holloway: Rast e, ez gelek\u00ee bi Renst Bloch bandor b\u00fbm, tev\u00ee ku di gelek aliyan de ez ne bi w\u00ee re me. Ji bo min bandor\u00ean w\u00ee pir mezin b\u00fbn. Bi r\u00eaya xwendina Bloch min Marks \u00fb gelek kes\u00ean din nas kir. Fikra “Prens\u00eepa H\u00eaviy\u00ea” di rastiy\u00ea de ew e, ji perspekt\u00eefa h\u00eaviy\u00ea fikirandina derbar\u00ea dinyay\u00ea de ye. Ev t\u00ea w\u00ea watey\u00ea ku fikirandin -weke di r\u00fbpela yekem an j\u00ee duyem de dib\u00eaje- ew e ji bo r\u00ea-vekirina siberojeke muhtemel, derbaskirina ya hey\u00ee ye, fikirandina ku rew\u015fa me ya hey\u00ee derbas dike. Div\u00ea ev yek di navenda fikr\u00ean me de be.<\/p>\n

Ji aliyek\u00ee din ve j\u00ee, madem te behsa pirt\u00fbk\u00ean \u2018Guhartina C\u00eehan\u00ea B\u00eay\u00ee Bidestxistina Desthilat\u00ea” \u00fb “Crack Capitalism” kir, ez ji meha Tebax\u00ea ve li ser pirt\u00fbkeke din di v\u00ea r\u00eaz\u00ea de amade dikim ku w\u00ea bi sernav\u00ea “Think Hope in Hopeless Times” anku “Di zeman\u00ea b\u00eah\u00eav\u00ee de, bi h\u00eav\u00ee bihizire”. Dibe ku heta du meh\u00ean din j\u00ee amadekariya w\u00ea dewam bike.<\/p>\n

Bi awayek\u00ee sereke, h\u00eav\u00ee li p\u00ea\u015fiya pere disekine, ji ber ku eger tu bi h\u00eav\u00ee bihizir\u00ee (Ev c\u00fbrey\u00ea ji hewldana ber bi p\u00ea\u015fketin\u00ea ye \u00fb hewldana derketina ji cih\u00ea em t\u00eade \u00fb afirandina c\u00eehaneke cuda) cih\u00ea ku em her tim bigh\u00eajin\u00ea w\u00ea her pere be. Tu y\u00ea \u00e7awa v\u00ea yek\u00ea bik\u00ee eger perey\u00ean te tune bin, nexasim pere her tim me ne\u00e7ar dike ku em r\u00eabaz\u00ean diyarker bikara b\u00eenin. Madem em hem\u00fb ti\u015ft\u00ean xwe na\u00e7\u00eenin (berhem\u00ean xwe), ten\u00ea ji ber ku p\u00eaw\u00eestiya me bi xwarin\u00ea heye, w\u00ea dem\u00ea p\u00eaw\u00eestiya me bi pere j\u00ee heye. ji ber v\u00ea yek\u00ea j\u00ee, em bi h\u00eaza mezin a pere re wek\u00ee rengek ji reng\u00ean r\u00eaxistina civak\u00ea re r\u00fb bi r\u00fb ne. Pirsa rasteq\u00een wiha ye, eger h\u00fbn h\u00eav\u00ee cid\u00ee bigirin, h\u00fbn dikarin bi r\u00eaya t\u00eakbirina h\u00eaza pere de, bi h\u00eaviy\u00ea bihizin? Dema ez pirt\u00fbka xwe xelas bikim, b\u00ea guman ez \u00ea bigih\u00eajim bersiv\u00ea (dikene)\u2026<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Ez wek\u00ee kesek\u00ee ku w\u00eajeya ingl\u00eez\u00ee bi r\u00eaya xwendina xwe ya akadem\u00ee di\u015fop\u00eenim, yek ji ti\u015ft\u00ean her\u00ee xwe\u015f di xwendina pirt\u00fbk\u00ean we de dib\u00eenim, h\u00eaza helbest\u00ea ye. Min dixwest pirs bikim gelo li pi\u015ft v\u00ea dewlemendiya ziman\u00ee ramanek\u00ee te y\u00ea rexney\u00ee heye?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: Ev xwe\u015f e! L\u00ea ne bawer im ku ez bi r\u00eabaz\u00ea helbest\u00ea diniv\u00ees\u00eenim. Xelk ji min re dib\u00eajin”ev xwe\u015fik \u00fb helbestvan e”. Ji t\u00eageh z\u00eadetir, ez di aliy\u00ea h\u00eaza b\u00ea nasnameb\u00fbn \u00fb nasnameya ku diherike, dihizirim. Beriya \u00e7end rojan, min niv\u00eeseke Raoul Vanegim dixwend ku t\u00eade behsa helbesta diherik\u00ea dike. Bi n\u00ear\u00eena min ev giring e. Bi rast\u00ee j\u00ee ti\u015fta ku em hewl didin bikin, wek\u00ee Bloch dib\u00eaje derbaskirin e, an j\u00ee wek\u00ee Adorno dib\u00eaje, hizirandina bi h\u00eaza b\u00ea nasnameb\u00fbn\u00ea ye an j\u00ee t\u00eako\u015f\u00eena nasnamey\u00ea li hember\u00ee nasnamey\u00ea.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: We xwendina min ji Adorno re guhart. Wek\u00ee h\u00fbn j\u00ee dizanin gelek rexne li dij\u00ee w\u00ee heb\u00fbn, ku xwe radest\u00ee re\u015fb\u00eeniy\u00ea kir \u00fb r\u00eabaz\u00ea w\u00ee ku dema \u015fore\u015fa xwendekaran di sala 1968`an de bi pol\u00eesan re axiv\u00ee. We ji me re h\u00eaza w\u00ee ya \u015fore\u015fger\u00ee re diyar kir. Wek\u00ee t\u00ea zan\u00een bandora Hegel li ser Adorno pir b\u00fb. Ji ber v\u00ea yek\u00ea j\u00ee, h\u00fbn \u00e7ima yekser bi Hegel re mij\u00fbl nabin \u00fb h\u00fbn li gel Adorno s\u00eenordar dim\u00eenin?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: Bawer im sedema sereke ya ku h\u00ee\u015ft bi Hegel yekser mij\u00fbl nebin, hinek\u00ee tirsa min j\u00ea heye \u00fb zehmet e ku j\u00ea were f\u00eamkirin (dikene)\u2026 L\u00ea ez h\u00ees dikim ku Hegel her tim heye. Min dest bi xwendina Bloch kir \u00fb ji wir min Lukasz xwend \u00fb ji wir j\u00ee min Marks xwend. Lewra di dawiy\u00ea de, em li p\u00ea\u015fber\u00ee metoda Hegel\u00ee ne. Ez j\u00ee gelek\u00ee bi Richard Gunn bandor b\u00fbm \u00fb dema ez li Edinburgh b\u00fbm, ew heval\u00ea min b\u00fb. Richard gelek\u00ee li ser Hegel dixebite, nexasim Hegel ciwan \u00fb pirt\u00fbka w\u00ee ya bi nav\u00ea “fenomenolojiya giyan\u00ee”. Ji ber ku \u015fore\u015fger\u00ee anar\u015f\u00eest e, Richard bi awayek\u00ee esas\u00ee Hegel nas dike. Her wiha Richard dib\u00eene ku t\u00eagih\u00ee\u015ftina navend\u00ee di felsegeya Hegel de, hev nas\u00een e. Fenomenolojiya giyan a Hegel li ser w\u00ea yek\u00ea ye ku, \u015fore\u015fa Fransay\u00ea bi r\u00eaya \u00e7alakiy\u00ean girsey\u00ea y\u00ean kolanan bi awayek xerab hate danas\u00een. Ev cih\u00ea ku “ez” l\u00ea bim, ew “em” \u00fb “em” ew e “ez”; anku tevgera hevnas\u00een\u00ea ye. Eger tu di v\u00ea mijar\u00ea de bihizir\u00ee, bawer im gir\u00eadaneke xwe ya xurt bi mijara r\u00fbmet\u00ea re heye. \u00cet\u00eerafkirina bi r\u00fbmet\u00ea \u00fb t\u00eako\u015f\u00eena li dij\u00ee inkarkirina r\u00fbmet\u00ea, di rastiya xwe de t\u00eako\u015f\u00eena ji bo hev nas\u00een\u00ea ye. Mijara navend\u00ee di meclisan de, eger em bi r\u00eaxistineke li dij\u00ee dewlet\u00ea bi hizirin-Eger em bi tevgera Zap\u00eesta, tevgera kurd\u00ee \u00fb tevger\u00ean din bi r\u00eaya kom\u00eenan \u00fb komb\u00fbnan bihizirin, ew di rastiya xwe de hev nas\u00een e \u00fb \u015fikandina h\u00eaza p\u00eeram\u00eed\u00ee ya ku me behs\u00ea kiriye. Lewma t\u00eako\u015f\u00een\u00ean wan tevgeran li dora p\u00ea\u015fketina hev nas\u00een\u00ea ya r\u00fbmetan mirovan digere. Pirt\u00fbkeke xwe\u015f a Richard Gunn \u00fb Adrian Wilding heye ku sala par bi sernav\u00ea “Naskirina \u015fore\u015fger\u00ee” hate we\u015fandin \u00fb min j\u00ee p\u00ea\u015fgotina w\u00ea pirt\u00fbk\u00ea niv\u00eesand. Bawer im cih\u00ea Hegel ji bo min ev.<\/p>\n

C\u00eehad: Pi\u015ft\u00ee nif\u015f\u00ea Adorno, Herbert Marcuse \u00fb Horkheimer, Habermas hat \u00fb kevne\u015fop\u00ean \u015fore\u015fger\u00ee y\u00ean nif\u015f\u00ea ber\u00ea hilwe\u015fandin. Dixwazim n\u00ear\u00een\u00ean te der bar\u00ea v\u00ea yek\u00ea de bizanim?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Holloway: N\u00ear\u00een\u00ean min ne d\u00fbr\u00ee n\u00ear\u00eena ku te gotiye, rast e hem\u00fb kevne\u015fop\u00ean \u015fore\u015fger\u00ee hilwe\u015fandin. Ez bawer dikim ku Habermas tu car\u00ee encam\u00ean \u015fore\u015fger\u00ee y\u00ean ku nif\u015f\u00ean ber\u00ea li Dibistana Frankfurt\u00ea behs dikirin, qet f\u00eam nekir.<\/p>\n

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Werger ji ereb\u00ee: Kendal C\u00fbd\u00ee<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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